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Do We Have to Choose Between Management and Leadership?

By Esther Derby
Feb 6, 2006

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Summary: Do organizations need fewer managers and more leaders? Do the qualities of one outweigh those of the other? In her article, Esther Derby defines leadership and management, and shows how one test manager incorporates both.


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In a recent discussion on the state of a software company, a programmer declared, "We don't need managers around here, we need leaders!" 
 
I'm always puzzled by statements like this. 
 
"How do you see the difference between management and leadership?" I asked. 
 
"Managers do things right, and leaders do the right thing," the programmer replied, repeating a Warren Bennis quote. 
 
"But what do they do differently?" I pressed.  
 
"Managers manage, and leaders lead," the programmer replied with conviction. 
 
Here's how leadership professor John Kotter describes the difference between management and leadership (which I paraphrase here): 
 
Management is:
     
  • establishing timetables and steps for achieving needed results and allocating resources to make it happen. 
  • creating structure, staffing and delegating responsibility, and having the authority to accomplish goals. 
  • monitoring results, identifying deviations, and planning and organizing to solve problems. 
  • producing key results expected by various stakeholders. 
 
Leadership is:
     
  • establishing direction, and developing a vision for the future. 
  • aligning people, modeling the vision, influencing, and creating teams and coalitions. 
  • inspiring people to overcome barriers to change by satisfying basic human needs. 
  • producing useful change. 
 
Reading these lists, it's clear to me that organizations need both. 
 
Here's an example. A test manager takes a job with a new testing group. He talks with his team, his manager, and the internal and external customers for his unit's work. Based on what he hears, he articulates a mission for the group: "We provide assessments of product quality and help product owners understand risks." That's leadership--setting a direction. 
 
He works with the team to identify all the work they're currently doing, work that's in queue, and projects scheduled for the next several months. Together, they assess what they can accomplish, what they won't do, and whether they have the right mix of skills to do the work. That's management. 
 
He supports the team as it self-organizes to accomplish the work. The organizing part is management (done by the team), while supporting self-organization is leadership--meeting human needs for autonomy. 
 
The test manager works with the team to identify the resources they need--machines, tools, and training--and then adjusts the budget to acquire the necessary resources. That's management. 
 
He's showing leadership when he meets with members of the team to understand their aspirations and help them articulate professional development goals. When they work together to build skills into daily work, that's management. 
 
As the team works to test its products, the manager and the team work together to develop metrics and dash boards that show test progress and communicate the quality of the product--management again. 
 
He makes sure the development manager and product owner define release criteria, leading through influence. He also brings change to the way the company makes ship decisions. When a testing project starts slipping, he pulls the team together to assess the issues and replan their approach--management, according to Kotter's definition. 
 
And so it goes--a little management here, some leadership there. The balance shifts, depending on the situation. The test manager combines management and leadership activities to attend to people and accomplish meaningful work. 
 
I've worked with people who were all leadership. When they lacked management behaviors--follow-through and attention to practical implementation--they left chaos in their wakes (and didn't actually produce much useful change). I've also worked with people who were mostly management, which only worked when they had enough personal warmth to navigate human relationships. (In accounting areas, you don't necessarily want creative ideas or big charisma--think Enron.) 
 
Viewing leadership and management as dichotomous sets up a false choice. Most positions in organizations need both, and that's what effective managers deliver.

 

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Comment:    
by BISIKAY AYEDUN 7/4/2008

Beyond MANAGEMENT and LEADERSHIP: Behold LEADAGEMENT

BISIKAY, Director, The Global LEADAGEMENT Institute, London, U K.
drbisikay@yahoo.com / leadagement@gmail.com

I have come to realise that once we moved away from MANAGERIALISM to, and, from the LEADERSHIP models of EXECUTIVE deployment and development, a new paradigm could now emerge, which I am exploring in the new concept of "LEADAGEMENT: The SUPER-MODEL of Higher Executive Development Beyond Management and Leadership".

One way to view it is to say we want to HUMANISE the EXECUTIVE functions, if we use the analogy or hypothesise that...Read On

 
 
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by Bruce Lynn 9/27/2007

A bit late to this conversation, but the subject is one I have explored in depth at: http://brucelynnblog.spaces.live.com/?_c11_BlogPart_BlogPart=blogview&_c=BlogPart&partqs=cat%3dLeadership%2band%2bManagement. I concur that organisations need both. Building off the Bennis quote - 'Top executives need to do the right things right.' My distinction between the two is much more focused and succinct: "Leaders optimise upside opportunity; Managers minimise downside risk."

 
 
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by Ernie Englehart 2/16/2006

I agree with others who have commented that an effective manager is also a good leader and vice-versa. For example, a manager cannot allocate resources, create structure, delegate responsibility, etc. without the ability to create teams and align people to meet goals. In highly functional organizations, I think we would find managers that are skilled in both areas. However, it needs to be noted that people can be effective leaders without being managers. I've known many engineers who have a keen vision of the future, are very skilled at influencing people and team decisions, and are instrumental in producing useful and constructive...Read On

 
 
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by Keith Collyer 2/10/2006

Jim Rozum wrote: >>Want to tell if a good manager is a good leader too ??? A good leader AND manager is the one that declares the team has to work Saturday, and then shows up with donuts by 8 and buys pizza at lunch ... he's the one that shares the pain ... and the rewards!<< Well, maybe. A good leader will provide the team with a reason for being there - and "Because I say so" isn't good enough. It has to be something that convinces them that the weekend working is really necessary for the health of the project, better than any other alternative and worth it for them. A good manager will try to avoid the necessity in...Read On

 
 
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by John Daughety 2/9/2006

I like to measure the effectiveness of these columns by the quality of the "post-discussion" - the comments submitted - as well as its actual content; based on what I read here, your column ranks very high! I want to follow on a couple of comments made below, first Gene's: I share wholeheartedly his frustration with corporate behavior when it comes to picking people to lead teams and training them as well. So many management decisions are made because a high performer cannot make any more salary as an individual contributor - a horrible reason for promoting someone to management. Even worse is the two-week "charm...Read On

 
 
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by Stephen Stewart 2/9/2006

Hi Esther, good thought provocking read. Who would you consider a great leader? And harder still who would be a great manager? It would be nice to have an example. Surely these human traits listed by Kotter can be found in any one individual? This reads like a text book management job creation scheme, never enough middle tier in the company. The programmers summation of course could have also included that 'programmers program, manage the manager and lead the leader!'. I am all in favour of the hybridisation of roles. I always remember an analyst programmers favourite phrase with regards to leaders, supervisors and (project) managers -'In...Read On

 
 
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by Sophia Johnson 2/8/2006

I think that your article, as you mention is spliting the two causing too much focus on compare and contrast of a leader v.s. a manager. I have found in my own career and in experience with my own managers, both good and bad, that it is more complex that just a simple compare of which behaviors are leadership, which are managerial. For example in career planning, as a manager working with a staff member, you can take a leadership approach by not only discussing options, but discussing strengths, discussing what you as a manager have done in the past and may currently be pursuing. Leadership skills are not limited to new ideas or new...Read On

 
 
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by Pete Walen 2/8/2006

Oops - This: "that I'm advocating micro-managing" should read this: "that I'm NOT advocating micro-managing"

 
 
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by Peter Walen 2/8/2006

I've use Jerry's analogy more than once. Then, just to make things perfectly clear, and to avoid the suggestion that I'm advocating micro-managing technical workers (particularly by people without the experience to support it), I point out that a General at the front lines can instill confidence in the troops and use personal charisma to encourage them to greater efforts. When the shooting starts, a General in the front lines is just another rifleman. Knowing when to jump in to the crucible and drop back to look at the larger scheme of things is crucial. Good article! Well done.

Author's Response:
2/8/2006    
Hi, Peter – Absolutely! People in management and leadership roles need to step back and see the big picture or they can’t steer the system. That’s one of the problems I see when people try to do technical work and management work – they get caught up in the details of the technical issue (which are, after all, quite fun) and lose sight of the state of the group/project as a whole. Thanks for writing. --Esther

 
 
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by Bruce Nichelson 2/8/2006

John Maxwell describes the difference between managers and leaders this way - managers maintain while leaders chart new courses. Certainly, it would be ideal if a manager had a combination of the two attributes, but frequently they are significantly stronger in one more than the other. More importantly, though, is that managers/leaders do not consistently develop their people as future leaders in the organization. Not only is their duty to ensure work gets done on time and on budget, but they also need to ensure the organization can continue in the event a key player is lost. In my experience, leadership and development of leaders is an...Read On

Author's Response:
2/8/2006    
Bruce – I think what you (and some others) are touching on is organizational context. The mix of management and leadership behaviors depends on the individuals strengths, skills, and qualities. It also depends on what is valued and rewarded within the organization. I hear lots of complaints about “managers” who don’t want to rock the boat—but if you look at their formal objectives (often dictated by someone higher in the organization) they are explicitly rewarded for keeping the system stable. So if we want leadership behaviors, we need to reward leadership behaviors, and vice versa. Thanks for writing. --Esther

 
 
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by Jerry Conklin 2/8/2006

Thanks, Esther, for your excellent column (as usual)! Manager (administration-oriented) says, "Charge!" and sits in his foxhole taking notes on the battle. Leader (action-oriented) says, "Follow me!" and inspires the team by showing them how it is done.

Author's Response:
2/8/2006    
Hi, Jerry – Well, depending on the context either may be the most appropriate choice. And that may be the crux of the matter – choosing a management behavior/action or a leadership behavior or action depending what the situation calls for. Thanks for writing. --Esther

 
 
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by Rose Eliff 2/7/2006

I always enjoy your clear, well-written, well-conceived columns, Esther! The distinction between leadership and management is very clear here; both are important to the success of a project. I've worked with a leader who had great vision, amazing people skills, the ability to generate excitement, articulate his ideas and gain strong support. Everyone loved this guy! He'd get the project started, everyone excited and then ... he'd move onto his next great vision. He lacked follow-through, but, fortunately, the rest of the team were strong enough to pick up the management part of the project. If he didn't have the right team, though, his...Read On

Author's Response:
2/8/2006    
Hi, Rose – Thanks for sharing your story. That matches my experience – “leaders” rely on other people with “management” skills to bring their ideas to fruition. Unfortunately, some people like the guy you describe don’t realize that both are needed and don’t value the practical matters of implementation. And they’re often long gone (on to the next big thing!) so they don’t see what happens when there isn’t someone with balancing skills in the management area. Thanks for writing. -- Esther

 
 
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by Clay G 2/7/2006

Not everybody will subscribe to the same definitions. Leadership might imply moving forward; 'management' might mean keeping the status quo running. Some might also think managers lack 'leadership' if they are more concerned with what their superiors hear than with what happening with the people they lead. What I would call leadership is probably still part of good management in your definitions. Your manager is the pragmatist (and 'metricist') and your leader is the visionary. I have seen people with so much 'vision' they are blind (hyperopia). So for me the distinctions are: - hyperopia/visionary vs mypopia/pragmatist - status...Read On

Author's Response:
2/8/2006    
Hi, Clay – What shows up depends on the organizational context and what people are valued and rewarded for. I think most people are capable of learning both management and leadership skills. Thanks for writing. --Esther

 
 
Comment:    
by Peter Clark 2/7/2006

Hi Esther - A leader who is not a manager can't keep the organization on the road - they zigzag all over and never get anywhere at all. A manager who isn't a leader won't notice that the bridge is out and will follow the road right off a cliff. When this happens, they will say that they were "following procedures". There is great comfort in following the well-trodden path, even if it doesn't take you where you need to go. A great illustration of bad leadership is from one of my favorite sci-fi books, "The Mote in God's Eye". They describe a "Crazy Eddie" leader as someone who "takes the garbage workers...Read On

Author's Response:
2/8/2006    
Hi, Peter – Context is everything. What works in one situation may be a disaster in another. You need to know how to do both management and leadership behaviors (know how). The art lies in knowing which to choose (know when). Thanks for writing. -- Esther

 
 
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by Chris DeNardis 2/7/2006

Hi Esther, When I was going through “charm” school, as I like to call it, for becoming a manager, what the analogy they used was that I was the ‘Coach’, who lead the team, and provide the direction. This direction could be in career growth of people, or vision for the group. The biggest thing we managers need to be aware of is that through delegation we are empowering our people instead of doing it all our selves. I believe this is where we the paths split between being a leader, and becoming a people person. I have witnessed scenarios where managers set the vision for the group, likewise managers just...Read On

Author's Response:
2/8/2006    
Hi, Chris – Now I know how you came to be so charming! I don’t see a split between leadership actions and being a people-person – a big part of leading is connecting on some personal level. It’s one thing to have big visionary ideas, but if you can’t communicate them in terms that other people value they won’t go far. And coming to understand what people value is all about being a people person. Thanks for writing. --Esther

 
 
Comment:    
by Jim Rozum 2/7/2006

Want to tell if a good manager is a good leader too ??? A good leader AND manager is the one that declares the team has to work Saturday, and then shows up with donuts by 8 and buys pizza at lunch ... he's the one that shares the pain ... and the rewards!

Author's Response:
2/7/2006    
Hi, Jim – A good manager may declare the team will work on Saturday and bring the pizza; a great one will establish a sustainable pace and manage the project portfolio and organizational expectations. (And pay for pizza lunch once in while just for the heck of it.) &#61514; Thanks for writing! Esther

 
 
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by Albert Zuurbier 2/7/2006

I think I am thinking along the same lines. Notice how this aligns with CMMI staged. At Level 1 you need leadership to get your organization anywhere. Then, climbing the levels you need more management skills. However, you will allways need leadership and management skills. Without leadership, you are stuck at level 1; whithout management skills you can't lead the organization up the levels and you are stuck at level 1. I think there is a relation between the leader/manager and the team: only when leader/manager are at the same level, they can try to move to the next higher level. It is a balancing act.

Author's Response:
2/8/2006    
Hi, Albert – Good point – what’s needed depends on the goal and the context. I think when we overvalue or undervalue either management actions or leadership actions, we reduce the likelihood that someone will choose the action appropriate to the situation. Thanks for writing. --Esther

 
 
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by Phil Page 2/7/2006

I think it depends alot on the culture of the company and the type of project. There is a need for both but we have to remember that leadership can be conducted through process or Entrepreneurial means which require different skill sets. The big question is whether the organisation drives change or the individual. Great article. Interesting to look at Miers Briggs 16 personality types - I am an ENTP!

Author's Response:
2/8/2006    
Hi, Phil -- That’s interesting – that a process can be a way to lead. Also interesting that you bring up MBTI. Some people claim that there’s a correlation between leadership and MBTI type. I’ve seen effective all types be effective in both management and leadership actions – but it may look very, very different depending on a persons type prefereces! Thanks for writing. --Esther

 
 
Comment:    
by Gene Fellner 2/6/2006

No one mentions supervision any more. It's not the same thing as management although there's some overlap. Supervision is all about people skills and the "small picture." Supervisors train people in the non-specific skills needed to work for a living and to do so in the particular organization. How to pace themselves, to become efficient and effective, to ignore or dismiss distractions, to cooperate. Basically, supervisors housebreak workers and make them eligible to stay on the payroll, and in most cases turn them into workers worthy of raises and promotions. This is a big issue in I.T., which tends to attract people with the...Read On

Author's Response:
2/7/2006    
Hi, Gene – A while back a manager was describing the trials and tribulations they were having with an employee to me. My first thought was, “my gosh, why is this person still employed.” Then I asked how long the person had been at the company. It turned out he was right out of college this was his very first job. He needed some coaching on how to work. So the function (and need) is still there. I usually see people in management or team lead roles take on the task of acculturation. I can’t remember the last time I ran into someone with the title of “supervisor,” outside of a time-clock job category… and even there I think it’s more common to hear the term team lead. Gene, maybe you would consider writing something on the role of supervisors and how it fits today. Thanks for writing. --Esther

 
 
Comment:    
by Ed Weller 2/6/2006

ester - I ageree with the comments about being all of one type with zero capability in the other dimension. Prefer the leader style however, IFF you and the team members can bring the management side of the equation. Unfortunately this can fall apart on really large projects (30 mill+), and Chaos doesn't quite describe the problem. Eventual solution is to bring in the Barbarian to get the project back on track! :-)

Author's Response:
2/7/2006    
Hi, Ed – Yep, the right balance between leadership and management actions depends on the context. You also make another important point: management and leadership doesn’t have to come from one person. A team needs a wide range of management and leadership activities and behaviors, but they can be shared across the team. This is especially true for self-organizing teams. Thanks for writing. --Esther

 
 
Comment:    
by Matthew Heusser 2/6/2006

Excellent. "Instead of leadership _or_ management, why not both?" It's the rule of three again! Very postmodern of you. :-) Seriously, good article.

Author's Response:
2/7/2006    
Hi, Matt – I am fond of the rule of three. Plus, having only two choices is inherently polarizing. Thanks for writing! – Esther

 
 
Comment:    
by Sundar Ganesh 2/6/2006

Esther...Fantastic article. Many people struggle to understand the differce. You have summerised the difference well and need for a a balance. Quotes provide clear picture....Planning to share it with my team....

Author's Response:
2/6/2006    
Hi, Sundar – Thank you for your kind words. When you share this with your team, you might want to explore the leadership and management actions/behavior the team members are doing. Leadership isn’t confined to one role. Thanks for writing. --Esther

 
 
Comment:    
by Stephen Hyam 2/6/2006

Personally I have never come across a good manager that was not also an inspirational leader with a clear vision of the way ahead together with the skills to communicate and see through that vision. I guess that is the thrust of the article - well worth thinking about.

Author's Response:
2/6/2006    
Hi, Stephen – I agree. Effective managers lead and manage. The balance between management actions and leadership actions depends on the position and the domain—but there’s always a mix. Thanks for writing. –Esther

 
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